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Jun 2, 2022

Today, our longtime friends, Michael and Julianne Cusick, join us as special co-hosts to interview Anne and me about how the Enneagram has strengthened our marriage of 33 years. We explore the low sides of our types and how they've negatively impacted our marriage and how we’ve overcome that, discuss the ways our types have helped us each grow, and highlight the important role of self-compassion.

Tune in to this very special episode on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player.  





P.S. We’re offering the full episode exclusively to our Typology Institute Members. So, to hear the rest of our interview, become a member today at