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Sep 21, 2017

A few weeks ago, renowned Enneagram teacher and author Dr. Beatrice Chestnut joined me on our show to discuss how Enneagram Twos see and relate to the world. Beatrice was so great that we were flooded with requests to have her on again, and thankfully she agreed or we would’ve had a mutiny on our hands!

On this episode Beatrice and I tackle the question “How do I use the Enneagram as a tool for personal and spiritual transformation?”

It’s a great question. Information isn’t transformation. If you want to use the Enneagram as a blueprint for change then knowing your number is only the first step. So today Beatrice and I discuss a few of the many next steps we can take to bring about positive change in our lives through using the Enneagram.

A student of the Enneagram system of personality since 1990 and a past president of the International Enneagram Association, Beatrice is the author of my all-time favorite Enneagram book, The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge.

So, take a seat, put your napkin on your lap, and get ready for a feast of Enneagram wisdom!


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